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GRAVELRIDGEBOY
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6/12/12 5:28 P

Although I still find it a little on the strange side, if a mother wanted her 5 year old kids to keep drinking breast milk for the health benefits then she should use a breast pump and let the kid drink it from a cup. The disturbing part is the kid latched on to the mother when he is way too old...



OSLOFILE
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6/12/12 5:17 P

My wife breast fed our babies in the late 60's, durring WWll because women hat to work they were bottle fed. the kids that followed did the same, but my wife wanted to breast feed and had one devil of a time in the delivery room cause that doctor was determined to give her a shot to dry up her milk.
Most of the nurses in the maturnity ward would come in because they had never seen a baby feed.

We would go to the movies or anywhere and she would descretely feed our children . In fact I saw a mother with a "fresh" baby in Chic fil A and she was doing as my wife did, she would throw the corner of the blanket over her shoulder. That told me from my past that that is what she was doing.

Now, for the magazine. The new mother was breast feeding in the library when she was kicked out. Now, say that was wrong. OK. Then why if you went to the magazine rack where anyone could see a child standing on a stool and breast feeding. What a rediculous photograph. Now the difference here is the media was doing the picture but the social program people were doing the tossing out.

I have read a few posts and I see where it is offensive. It is but my wife and a friend of my wife's breast fed their babies and no one ever saw, because she covered up. That is why the magazine's picture is in very poor taste. Those people are doing that for the money.



Edited by: OSLOFILE at: 6/12/2012 (17:25)


ILLKID
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6/12/12 4:53 P

I disagree with the magazine cover. I feel it was a means to stir up controversy. As far as breastfeeding I would be embarrassed if my wife was breastfeeding my 3 or 4 yr old child in public.



TURTLESDOVE
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6/4/12 1:29 P

@KJ, you are hilarious. As far as the breast feeding issue, different strokes for different folks. I breast fed both my children for about 2 months and then my milk dried up. I would of continued until they were about 2 years old though.



KELLEA927
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6/1/12 6:15 P

I'm not a man so I wont comment on the breast feeding part however this thread made me realize how many women think that breast feeding is their choice and only their choice. I can't even fathom not wanting to discuss major family decisions with my husband let alone telling him it's my body and I'll do what I want with it... and our child.



NAYPOOIE
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5/29/12 4:38 P

Hey Deejon, pay attention here. This is how you do devil's advocacy.

Some people here have said if you don't like it, don't look. How about if what you aren't liking is a male flasher? He's not doing any real harm. If you don't like it, don't look. Just move along.



NAYPOOIE
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5/29/12 4:36 P

The OP wanted guys' opinions, so asked guys.

The guys are entitled to have opinions on anything.

The guys are entitled to their own opinions, not what someone else thinks they should think.

The guys are entitled to state their own opinions when asked for them.

By my gender, I can't be a father. Does not mean I'm not entitled to have an opinion about how people go about fatherhood. If you think I'm not entitled to such an opinion, well then you're not entitled to have any opinions about my opinions, so back off.

Edited by: NAYPOOIE at: 5/29/2012 (16:40)


IHEIDIBEFITT
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5/29/12 4:02 P

What is DEE's problem?

Anyway, coming from a young lady who will try to breastfeed when I have children: I think it's a little much to have your child breastfeeding when they're able to have a conversation with you. If women really want their child to have the nutrition from breast milk, pump and serve it in a sippy cup or a regular cup. You won't find me having my 4 or older child latching on my breast.



TERESTRIFE1
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5/27/12 9:08 P

I saw the title and had to comment. i find it funny how things change as time goes by. you see my mom who is 64 years old, she told me she breast fed all but one of her kids. the one she didnt breast feed (my bro he is 40 now) had asthma, and he "died" many times, and was revived, because his little body was so unhealthy.

she breast fed her three other kids. since she had the youngest two, which is me and my older brother who is 2 years older than me. she breast fed him the longest. she breast fed him until he was 4 years old, almost 5 years old. he is a normal 30 year old man, he works hard, is married with an adorable 2 year old daughter. he hasnt had to have "therapy". he is a good son to his mom, but is not a push over to her.

all im saying is, that breast feeding a little longer isnt the end of the world... there are other ways to mess up a kid. like my sister in law who yells like a banshee and spanks her kids, none of them respect her....



DEEJON123
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5/25/12 11:20 P

I agree, don't like it, don't look! If it was an issue with you and your partner personally, then you should have an opinion, I just think people, men or women should not make decisions for others. I got the talking going at least,up until my comment, this was quite boring. I see some hot tempers out there, hope that doesn't reflect on your relationships and affect persons lives adversely. OH, and the comments I made were not directed at you, unsure why you have that impression by saying "what part of my previous post stating "Don't care" do you not understand?". Did it not occur to any of you out there that I may have been playing devil's advocate?? !! Now, it's time for LOL. emoticon



DEEJON123
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5/25/12 11:12 P

Excuse me, but I have been married for almost 40 years, I do discuss issues with my spouse and he with me, however the final decision regarding my body was mine. At least you realize this, and I respect what you are saying, but don't make assumptions about others. Oh, and by the way, I breastfed my children ....... because I wanted to! I'm just sayin' ..... My goodness, you guys really take this subject seriously huh. At least it got this hoppin with some conversation, thanks for that you guys!



LARRYA5
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5/25/12 8:22 P

Yea the nerve of us guys discussing what we think about something.




KJFITNESSDUDE
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5/25/12 6:40 P

I agree with DEEJON123, what right did the original poster have in asking this question in the Guy's Lounge since men have zero experience in breast feeding.

Personally, I got NO OPINION on the subject. That said, I'm on my way to The Ladies Room to ask about men masturbating and if those women like it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_plR-MF2hnY



RUSSTHESKIGUY
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5/25/12 3:16 A

I am a father of three and my wife breastfed all of them from birth to about 2 years when they weaned off naturally. This is something she wanted to do and I fully supported this. However, I don't think I would feel comfortable with my wife breasfeeding my kids at age 4 or 5 though, especially in public. Since my wife also never had a desire to do this it is not something we had to deal with. I personally think breastfeeding is a healthy chocie but I also understand that there are a myriad of reasons why it is not viable for many people and that is fine too. I agree 100% with HGSGuy that as a father I should have some input into this as it definitely affects my children and affects my wife as well. Marriages are supposed to be partnerships where you can discuss issues that affect the whole family and this is one of them. I'm not going to tell other people how to raise their family but it definitely IS MY BUSINESS what goes on in my own family, even if I'm not the one lactating. In the end, the decision does ultimately rest with my wife because it is her body, but we discuss issues like this and she takes my desires and opinions into consideration when making her decisions. For the women out there arguing that men should have no say in this decision, just because you don't have the skills to communicate with your spouse, or simply don't value their opinions, that does not mean that the rest of us are incapable of actually discussing issues and then making decisions together with our spouses. And people wonder why the divorce rate is so high in this country.

Edited by: RUSSTHESKIGUY at: 5/25/2012 (05:34)


EASTENDCLAM
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5/24/12 6:47 P

DEEJON123, what part of my previous post stating "Don't care" do you not understand? I'm a guy, if she wants to supply a breast to her child for a magazine cover, I don't care. If I don't like it, I won't buy the magazine, if I do, I will. Same thing as my TV remote. If I don't like the program, I change the channel.

edit: spel chek

Edited by: EASTENDCLAM at: 5/24/2012 (18:49)


NAYPOOIE
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5/24/12 11:38 A

Deejon, did you even read the posts? Don't be coming in here and slamming the guys, the whole purpose of this thread was to get their opinions. And they're entitled to think what they think, not what you want them to think. And to answer the original question honestly without being told they have no rights to an opinion.



DEEJON123
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5/23/12 9:06 P

So, as a woman I ask you, when are you going to pull out your breast???? !!!



HGSGUY
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5/23/12 1:23 P

As a dad, I absolutely have not only the privilege of having a say in how my children are raised, but also an obligation. I find Skinny's comment to be very dated and offensive to fathers!

Luckily I found a woman I can communicate with, consult with, and determine how WE raise our children.

Edited by: HGSGUY at: 5/23/2012 (13:25)


DEEJON123
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5/22/12 9:12 P

Coming from a woman, what makes you guys qualified to comment, has a young child ever sucked on your breast after they have teeth!! This subject should not be any concern to you since you don't experience it anyway! PLEASE LET THE WOMEN SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES ........ WE FOUND OUR VOICE IN THE 1960's AND NO LONGER REQUIRE YOUR PERMISSION TO SPEAK OUT, Gheesh! You make decisions about our bodies too much, abortions - not your business, prostitution - not your business, equal rights - not your business. Join the new century boys! This woman made a decision to breast feed, a decision to be photographed, don't like it, don't look but please do not comment either. emoticon emoticon



EASTENDCLAM
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5/22/12 6:24 P

Don't care.



CUSTOMSOUND79
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5/22/12 1:50 P

I don't think Skinny saw the cover, but men have just as much say in how their child is raised. I agree that the viral photo is far more damaging to this kid than where his meal is coming from, although, if his legs can support his body then his hands can support a sippy cup.



NAYPOOIE
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5/21/12 6:42 P

Skinny, that wasn't an infant by any definition. I have no problem with nursing babies, even in public, but a child that age should be eating his food, not drinking it.



GYMMAN59
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5/17/12 7:12 P

My wife also and RN , I have no opinion on this yet lol



KJFITNESSDUDE
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5/17/12 2:40 P

*whew!*

I dodged the bullet on this one!

LOL!



HGR1969
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5/17/12 2:09 P

Actually, I strongly disagree with gravelridgeboy and alp. I'm a Registerd Nurse and KNOW the beneficial scientific evidence that breastfeeding provides...and much of the benefits go well beyond the baby's first 12 months of life. I'm talking resistance to infection and a decreased risk to certain types of cancer - and not just while they are nursing...some of the benefits last a lifetime.

Each species produces nutrient milk that is most suited to their offspring. No soy, sheep or cow's milk is going to provide a human child the same quality nutrients that human milk does. And further, science has proven that each individual mother produces slightly different milk based on the needs of their infant.

I agree that in our culture, we're not used to seeing a mother nursing her infant...we are much more conditioned to viewing a woman's breasts as sexual organs. News for everyone - they are BOTH!

So, to you boys who have an opion on this topic, I say grow up and become men and mind your own business. Once you can carry an unborn baby and develop lactating breasts, then I'll give your opinion some consideration.







DANNYLOLIVER
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5/17/12 6:38 A

I think once the kid is big enough to ask for it, pull it out him self, or gives the mother beard burn, it might be time to stop breast feeding



TRINITYROYAL
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5/14/12 6:57 P

@KJ, that's spoken like a man who spends his days surrounded by ornery women. emoticon

I MUST call BS on the notion that men control women in this day and age. Women are free to do pretty-much anything these days without input from men, let alone control. Men, on the other hand, are subject to all sorts of grief...all while women are complaining that men bully them.

(Yes, I know there are millions of specific examples that can be found to back up whatever side of the argument you choose to take, but I'm just calling 'em as I see 'em.)

Re: the subject at hand, well-said GRAVELRIDGEBOY.



KJFITNESSDUDE
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5/14/12 1:38 P

I'm a guy, what does it matter to me? Men "control" women enough in this day and age why make it worse?



LOVEXAVIE
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5/12/12 2:57 P

When I saw the cover, I kept thinking about that kid....in today's digital / over-sharing age, if his classmates ever put two & two together, man is he going to get teased about that at school!
The kid looks older than he is (might just be tall), and he's looking at the camera like, "You talkin' to ME?"
LOL!







ALP1981
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5/12/12 1:35 A

Doesn't it usually seem to be boys whom are breastfeeding longer? Maybe that's not a fair observation.

Regardless...

It's awful! I couldn't agree more with everything GRAVELRIDGEBOY said. It's right up their with raising non-gender-specific children. Are these parents not thinking of the mental and social consequences of their actions? Are they that self absorbed that they're blinded by their own "empowerment?"

Very disturbing.



GRAVELRIDGEBOY
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5/11/12 8:30 P

No, No, No, NO!
It is the job of a parent to ween them from the tit as soon as you can so they can grow up, it is unhealthy to baby kids like that. They need to learn to be independent and the parents need to back off. It is stupid stuff like this that makes 40 year old guys still living with his parents.

I am not saying that they need to move out and get a job as soon as they are walking...lol...but kids need to be able to make decisions (good and bad) and live with the consequences. The parents should be available to direct the kids to the right way but some times going the wrong way helps them remember. As a kid I use to always duck under the hot wire when running out in the fields even though I was told not to, one day I missed and it shocked me good and I was a lot more careful after that! It was the old style hot wire that knocked me to the ground.

The parents that can not let go of the infant stage have serious mental problems and they are just making another generation that thinks it is normal when it is not...



DUSK-2-DAWN
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5/11/12 7:56 P

Sorry to bust in here, (so to speak), but I was wondering what guys/dads think of this.

Would you care if your wife did it? How about the cover itself?

From the NPR article:

"The photo on the cover shows a 26-year-old mother breastfeeding her almost 4-year-old son. The reaction has been explosive and visceral and a lot of the more thoughtful commentary revolves around a philosophy by Dr. William Sears called attachment parenting, which encourages co-sleeping and carrying your baby everywhere and breast-feeding sometimes into toddlerhood."


http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012
/05/11/152498751/mother-on-time-cover-
breastfeeding-photo-doesnt-show-nurtur
ing-side




Edited by: DUSK-2-DAWN at: 5/11/2012 (19:57)


 
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