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JADOMB SparkPoints: (98,964)
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7/20/12 11:37 P

Actually, I looked up crossfit and watched different videos on what they were asking of their folks and standby my observation. As I said, I'm sure someone can modify it some to work with anyone. When I took TKD, they modified it for a fellow student in a wheelchair. So yes, all things can be used to reach a goal. But I still believe through many years of exercising before I took that LONG vacation, and now with new information and new ideas, that crossfit would still be a better fit for one with a bit more basic conditioning. So I'm not ill informed, I just have a difference of opinion on what I'd have a beginner do.

KNEAZLE7 Posts: 13
7/20/12 10:35 P

JADOMB, it seems you and Jen both are ill informed of what CrossFit actually is. No one asks people to start out snatching #90 for reps. As I said, I could hardly do a body-weight squat for a long time. Multiple joint movements are much less straining on joints because load is shared versus the old isolated mentality.

I would like the original poster to have the correct idea of what this discipline actually is before it being discounted by those without experience in it.

Here are the videos of the overweight older woman who was near terminally ill and her "miracle":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xl99pP96
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsZhO1zBt
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Edited by: KNEAZLE7 at: 7/20/2012 (22:48)
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7/20/12 8:04 P

I have to agree with Jen on this one. Even if Crossfit is modified for geriatrics(which any exercise can be), it is still something that is a step up from more isolated exercises that would be better to condition a beginner with. I had to start over again after 15 years of neglect even though I was fit for most of my life, but even I had to condition myself to teach my muscles as to what was about to come. Had I started with even a modified Crossfit, I'm afraid I would have constantly had sore muscles in new places even after a day of rest. I don't like doing it that way, and have learned from experience that doing it that way is the best way to burnout and/or give up.

So we all need to crawl before we walk and walk before we run. We may be able to move through those stages at different speeds, but we should still follow that plan to best train and condition our bodies.

KNEAZLE7 Posts: 13
7/20/12 7:42 P

CrossFit not for beginners? I would have to disagree since I've seen overweight geriatric women whose MD's had given them no hope of rehabilitation completely gain back their cardiovascular function. So much so that they were able to get off some of their meds. Many, many success stories are from amazing athletes who came from previously sedentary lifestyles. Just watch the CrossFit games over 60 group for proof!

I also started with no fitness base and could do no more than a 5 minute MetCon and could barely manage 1 squat with proper form. Now I compete with my husband. ALL workouts are and should be scale-able. No significant athletic gains come without intensity.

SPARK_COACH_JEN Posts: 56,143
7/19/12 7:17 A

Vegasmom,

You've gotten some great advice, although I would say that Crossfit is not really an appropriate workout for someone who's just starting to exercise.

Please let me us know if you have any other questions.

Coach Jen

KNEAZLE7 Posts: 13
7/18/12 9:58 P

CrossFit is cardio with weights. It's high intensity circuit training and it's awsome. For example, the other day I did 45# push presses, followed by 100m sprints for 5 rounds. Or I did #30 thrusters, #20 weighted lunges, pullups, and squats. They are short, but very effective and it's known to rebuild your metabolism. Look for a gym in your area or look it up online. All CrossFit is open source so they'll teach you stuff online without cost :)

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7/18/12 8:32 P

All great advice. Just remember that if you don't eat right and with a deficit, all the exercise in the world won't do you any good. I'm willing to bet that in the last 5 month I could have lost 10+ lbs without doing any exercise at all. But working up to a good cardio and ST program helped me to lose a total of 30+ lbs. Plus, I helped me do it the right way and I added muscle, strength and fitness. So find out what your doctor meant for sure. But I expect they are just trying to tell you to eat right and exercise.

CHERIMOOSE Posts: 390
7/18/12 5:58 P

"Cardio" is a vague term that encompasses walking, sprinting like a madman, and everything in between. Since the doctor basically wants you to lose weight and isn't providing specifics, you might as well follow the usual advice, which is to do any vigorous cardio of your choice (walking fast, cycling, elliptical machine, etc) and also follow a strength training program. A good routine is to do a full-body strength workout 3 times a week on non-consecutive days, and do cardio on 3 other days. Most fitness professionals recommend taking a day off per week, or at least make it an "easy workout" day, to prevent over-training. And if you're new to exercising, don't start with 45 minutes per day or you may over-train and get injured. Start with 15-20 minutes and add a few minutes per workout.

Good luck!


Edited by: CHERIMOOSE at: 7/19/2012 (01:46)
UNIDENT Posts: 33,498
7/18/12 3:30 P

Perhaps she simply meant all healthy people should be spending about 45 minutes a day on some form of exercise, whether cardio or weights. That is a good general guideline.

While Sgt is right that exercising to lose weight is a lost cause, exercising every day is part of a healthy lifestyle! :)

We can't possibly guess what she might have meant by that throwaway phrase, so you should probably ask her, but just getting some cardio and some weights work, and around 45 minutes a day of exercise, is a healthy level and will contribute to weight loss goals if your intake is appropriate as well.

SCTK519 Posts: 2,085
7/18/12 2:27 P

I would take that as cardio and strength training, but not together.

SERGEANTMAJOR Posts: 6,415
7/18/12 12:25 P


Doing exercise to lose weight is an exercise in futility. The formula for fat loss consists of three parts which are in ranked order, nutrition (diet)first which comprises 80%, strength training second and cardio third. The last two only are 20% of the equation.

I suggest a revisit to the physician for a more specific prescription. Physical fitness is not a part of the ciriculum in med school and few physicians have anything more than a superficial knowlege as to how to obtain firness.

VEGASMOM2 SparkPoints: (795)
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7/18/12 11:27 A

My health issues has nothing to do with the exercise. She wants me to do the exercise to lose weight.

SPARK_COACH_JEN Posts: 56,143
7/18/12 11:20 A

I'd agree to ask the doc for clarification. My guess is that she wants you to do a 45 minute workout that incorporates both cardio and weight training. But it's better to ask just to be sure.

Coach Jen

LUANN_IN_PA Posts: 16,111
7/18/12 10:22 A

Since you have health issues, I think you should ask the doctor what she meant.


VEGASMOM2 SparkPoints: (795)
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7/18/12 9:55 A

I am having some health issues and recently went to the doctor and she told me that I need to do 45 min 7 days a week of exercise. I asked her what kind of exercise and she said "Cardio with weights". What excatly does this mean?

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