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Is it unmanly to play down a division in softball?



 
 
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PATTERD707
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8/7/12 10:12 A

no biggie, I was kinda in a rant

I do that sometimes

overall, I need to accept that I can't control everything, and just worry about myself more, if you know what I mean

when it comes to my fitness journey, it's the same, it's too easy to take the focus off the things that I need to change and worry to much about others



NHOYLE1
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8/6/12 5:19 P

My bad, I missed the infield things somehow.



PATTERD707
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8/5/12 10:44 A

LOL, I'll try the "4th grader" comment next time.



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8/5/12 10:36 A

I agree outfield is a good place, but he mentioned that they have to have a certain number of women in the infield, which is pretty typical in any co-ed league. So if there are no women who are comfortable enough to play against the ringer team, I think it's a little unfair to make them go out there.

Totally agree on the practice. The sad state of practice, in my experience, is that the people that need to practice the most rarely if ever show up. These reasons are why I do not coach any of the teams I play on and do not play co-ed rec leagues any longer. Co-ed competitive is much better.



NHOYLE1
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8/5/12 10:16 A

If more than half the teams seem too good, they probably look around and say "heck half the teams are as good as us, so it should be fine". I know for other things, like group music lessons, I have had a horrible time trying to figure out what skill level I should be in, and I am sure they feel the same way.

As for safety, maybe the outfield and would be a safer place for those individuals while they develop their skills. If they have trouble getting the glove up to protect themselves, that is. You don't need to forfeit, and outfield will let them work on their catching and throwing in a safe environment.

Honestly, when it comes to developing skills in baseball and softball, a game is not a good time to do that, due to the infrequency of the hits coming to each person. If their goal is to just get out there and have fun, that is cool, but practice is where you get better.

Edited by: NHOYLE1 at: 8/5/2012 (10:18)


BREWMASTERBILL
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8/4/12 11:28 A

Ya, that's unfortunate. I don't see that you have much choice. If safety is a huge concern, I'd forfeit. This might send a message to the other team. But again, I just don't understand why people play in leagues way beneath them. It's happened before and I ask them if they have some 4th graders to beat up after this game.



PATTERD707
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8/4/12 11:19 A

I can clarify.

There are four levels of leagues: competitive, intermediate, rec, and lower rec (supposed to be relaxed). I've played in all of them and so I know the levels of the players. We're in lower rec due to the players we have, but at least 1/2 of the other teams should be in intermediate or competitive. My take is that they played down a level or two in order to dominate. Furthmore, they make comments like "easy out" and crap like that, which is what I'd do too (if I was in competitive).

Also, when they hit frozen ropes through the infield I think that's dangerous for my wife and the other ladies, who chose the lowest league in order to have fun and learn some skills. Hope that make some sense now.



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8/3/12 11:08 A

I'm not sure I fully understand the concern. Are you saying that these girls are ringers and you think it's a bit unfair to have ringers in rec? I could see that. I often wonder why people play in leagues that they're clearly too good for. Sounds like you might want to recruit better women next season if they're letting ringers in. I don't see that there is much you can do about it, unfortunately. If they're concerned about their safety, you should probably forfeit or play short handed?



PATTERD707
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7/31/12 10:28 A

I think so!

My family has a rec softball team. We have some decent guys, but when our experienced girls don't show up it's a bit dangerous. These other teams are in the lowest division (with us), and yet they rifle frozen ropes every other batter. Since we're required to have two girls in the infield, it's borderline dangerous, but clearly makes them feel better about themselves.

Anyone else see it the same, or differently? I'm open.



 
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