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PANDAS10 SparkPoints: (16,949)
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4/29/12 9:30 P

See here's the thing... people are assuming that because I don't like the change, I must have issues with my ranges or what I'm doing.
Actually, I'm in range 6-7 days per week and I have crossed over 1000 minutes of cardio this month. I've lost 2lbs/wk for the past 2 weeks and feel great.
It really has nothing to do with what I am *actually* doing.... On the contrary, I've finally found my groove.
The point behind my original post is that I don't like the pressure that the new layout presents. I don't like the idea that it is yelling. I feel that it pushes for absolute perfection instead of just giving guidance. I'm doing really well, but my start page wants me to do more, do it now, and do it better.
I understand that probably wasn't the designers' intent; I understand that this isn't something SP did to me personally. But this would have the same degrading effect as my husband constantly pointing out my flaws (he doesn't, but if he did, I'd feel anxious and pressured to be perfect). I rely on this site and prefer it to be supportive rather than demanding (or demeaning). We'll all see it a different way... I still don't like it. I probably won't ever un-hide the feature (although when the page loads, it flashes those damned numbers before hiding it anyway).
Thanks to Trilliantoo and Pookie for understanding.

RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
4/29/12 10:43 A

When I was a manager, I had to explain to people when they did things wrong. I would take them aside, and talk to them. I got a lot of people that said I yelled at them. It wasn't my volume, but the tone of my voice. Always some b.s. reason.

The problem wasn't that they got yelled at, it was that they didn't like having things pointed out to them.

I can't dicount how it makes certain people feel. However, you should stop and ask yourself.. Why do I feel I am being yelled at by a large type? I think it says more about the person who is worried about being chastised by a website, and less about SP.

I agree SP is always making changes that I feel are unnecessary. It is a tool, and making it different doesn't make it better. It still does the same job. At least it works though. The food tracker was a mess for a month when they redid that.

Maybe if people contact SP in big enough numbers, they will lower the font size.

4/28/12 8:49 P

When I worked in a restaurant, there was an employee that would show up late every single day. Most of the staff was used to it, though it was somewhat annoying. He was a good worker and very well liked, but every day, he would show up 5 to 10 minutes late. While the cook that day was a bit of a hothead, it was one of her first days as the head cook. She got extremely upset about it, stating how it was disrespectful -- she was livid and was taking it personally.

I reminded her that he did this every day and it had nothing to do with her. It wasn't something he was doing out of disrespect to her, it was a bad habit and she should not take it personally.

Sparkpeople is going to make changes, like any other business. While it is true that I no longer have weight to lose, I would not take bold lettering personally even if I did. If the intent of the change was to berate people then it would be understandable, but the change is not directed in any way shape or form toward you or anyone else in a negative way.

If you are in a situation where you feel that the amount of food you are allowed to eat is not enough, then I would highly suggest looking into what you're eating. A few things I learned in my process was that I can still eat a lot of food, but I have to make choices that are conducive to me feeling full. Part of that is eating a lot of fiber and drinking a lot of liquid. It can be easier and you will accomplish your goals.

MOM2JG Posts: 132
4/28/12 8:32 P

Everyone is different. I like it myself, and I am just absolutely happy that SparkPeople offers us so much and that it is free. I don't think we should be complaining about anything here. Chris and his staff have given us so much. Thank you SparkPeople!

TRILLIANTOO SparkPoints: (41,587)
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4/28/12 8:25 P

Russell, I'm in range with everything. I still don't like being shouted at.

But even if I wasn't in range, is it worth shouting at me? Will that make it better?

RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
4/28/12 7:25 P

SP start page is bullying people? lol

It's just posting info you entered. It is no different, except that you ignored it before. Maybe SP figured that made it worthless, and upgraded it. Since no one sees it, it isn't embarassing. Seems people are just mad that they are being made aware that they are off plan a bit.

I spend less than 2 mins a day on that page, so I don't care really, but maybe the people who are upset, should ask whether their anger is really anger at themselves.

TRILLIANTOO SparkPoints: (41,587)
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4/28/12 4:39 P

I'm with the OP and feel like I'm being screamed at and I don't like it at all. It makes me want to avoid the Start Page and the valuable information there altogether.

I liked the slider much better, and I liked when the tabs with Blogs and Recipe and all that was much smaller also - takes too darn long to load in my computer, and I have to spend so much time scrolling.

Makes me think the people who design the site have mega huge screens instead of normal sized ones like us every day folks.

ATHENA1966 Posts: 3,976
4/28/12 3:12 P

I actually like the change. Spark is a place for support and venting is a good thing (in my opinion). The good news is you can hide it. Keep coming back. You are clearly making progress!

MANDIETERRIER1 Posts: 17,527
4/28/12 2:56 P

I do believe that you feelings are valid. I can partly understand what you are posting about.

Even though some of us like the changes. We still have our own issues. I just put the sweetest little dog that was ever created, to sleep. I am sick to my stomach and can barely eat. And the big numbers remind me of this. I am not going to let it make me feel inadequate or inferior. Nothing can make me feel inferior without my permission.

KKKAREN Posts: 12,754
4/28/12 8:29 A

change is good - don't sweat the small stuff!

J0ANNAJ Posts: 1,007
4/28/12 8:10 A

I have to say I like it. I often have to log on to check what I have left before deciding which snack to eat and its great to have that information sitting there on my start page - after all no one else sees it.

J0ANNAJ Posts: 1,007
4/28/12 8:08 A

I have to say I like it. I often have to log on to check what I have left before deciding which snack to eat and its great to have that information sitting there on my start page - after all no one else sees it.

BUBBLEJ1 Posts: 2,981
4/27/12 8:26 P

One last opinion here - Spark is a FREE website. It doesn't cost me a thing, so I don't feel like I have a right to complain about anything (except less than steller spins on the wheel!). There are many other websites that may work better, some a free and some have a fee. But for me, I'd rather just go with the flow and use a website that doesn't cost me a thing!

4/27/12 8:18 P

they wouldn't have made the changes if they didn't think that the changes would have helped us all in our individual journeys

SNOWJESTER SparkPoints: (29,896)
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4/27/12 8:12 P

You should reread what you just wrote and really think about it. YOU are beating yourself up not a calorie counter on a website. Spark did NOT tell you you were less than perfect. You told yourself that. You slapped yourself in the head and called yourself a failure. All the website did was tell you how many calories you ate. You're saying it's a stumbling block that you didn't even who exactly is causing it? The negative thinking is all you. All spark did was show you numbers. Not yell at you or call you a failure. You're doing that all by yourself. I don't really have any advice on how to not do that, I do it to, (my trigger is the scale) but recognizing it is a start.

PANDAS10 SparkPoints: (16,949)
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4/27/12 4:30 P

Ok.. so, about my blog and message board post yesterday.
I can tell you that is the first time that I have ever just posted anything on here without really thinking through what I was saying or editing it...
It was an honest to god gut reaction to seeing it.
I was absolutely very upset by it.
I know that to others this seems trivial at best.
However, the fact of the matter is that binge eating disorder lives in my past. And one of the things that I know can and will trigger a massive binge is if I feel like I'm out of control.
The big bold numbers caused a level of anxiety and a loss of sense of control... It was truly the last thing I needed after a long day on the road to fire an employee. I *was* stressed and a bit emotional. The last thing I needed was for Spark to tell me I was less than perfect.
I sat down at the computer to track and plan my dinner before cooking it... and instead I felt like I had been slapped upside the head for being a failure and less than perfect... fortunately, venting about it here helped me to hold back on what could have been a huge binge.
This is yet another stumbling block for me, one that I didn't even cause.
Interestingly enough, I think my reaction is demonstrative of much I have come to depend on Spark and it's resources. *sigh*

I know some people just won't understand. . . be grateful that you don't, I guess.

I did "hide" the feature. I don't like not having the quick reference, but it's better than feeling like a failure. I really felt that the sliding scale was more like a guide and it's presentation offered more control and less demand of perfection.

So it goes... if nothing else, I wish the Spark team would have at least notified us before doing it.

TMCLEOD4 Posts: 1,673
4/27/12 3:15 P

I just clicked "hide" so I don't have to look at it. It's a pretty simple fix.

MANDIETERRIER1 Posts: 17,527
4/27/12 3:12 P

Although peoples concerns are valid. It still doesn't bother me at all.

I like it

Edited by: MANDIETERRIER1 at: 4/27/2012 (15:12)
-POOKIE- SparkPoints: (327,055)
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4/27/12 12:06 P

I feel like its yelling at me... right now I saw it as being VERY SHOUTY THAT OMG YOU NEED TO EAT 1 MORE CALORIE TODAY!!!!!!!

And, from a design point of view? Its pretty terrible.

The neatened tabs on the today on SP is better, especially it now opening things in a new tab rather than a link, thats great.

But the yelling, huge print is ugly.

DIDS70 Posts: 5,368
4/27/12 10:02 A

they don't bother me either. No one else but me can see my start page so I don't really care if the numbers are big or the design changed. I open up to my view sparkpoints page and rarely if ever go to the start page.

LULU8278 Posts: 313
4/27/12 8:50 A

I like the changes for the most part. I don't like how BIG the font and icons are though. It's just too big and awkward looking. But, I do like seeing in numbers what I have left for the day for calories, etc. It makes it easy to know with a quick glance.

TINYCURLS Posts: 401
4/27/12 8:45 A

I saw the changes but I kinda like them. I like seeing everything mega size. It motivates me a little bit to see it like that. No hiding from the truth.. emoticon

UNIDENT Posts: 33,498
4/27/12 5:03 A

PANDAS10 there is a "hide" button on the top right of that block.

You won't get to see the sliding scale instead, because it's gone, but at least you don't have to look at those big scary numbers if they cause you so much anxiety all the time! And you can click 'show' if you feel you need to know what those numbers are right now, and then 'hide' again for ensuring they don't keep showing up.

BUBBLEJ1 Posts: 2,981
4/27/12 2:04 A

Awww I like the changes! It is all labeled so it makes sense, and everything is so clear. The sliding scale bothered me, because it showed how much weight I still have to lose. Today I logged in and saw "You have lost 7kg" in big letters, which put a grin on my face!

I think this layout will be easier to navigate and use, esp. for new people.

4/27/12 1:57 A

You can't make everyone happy lol. Some people will like it some won't.

I really like it. I like being able to see all the info large and right there i guess. It is easy for me to ignore things the other way lol. Instead it can be a positive way for me to tell myself - ok this is what you have.

So i guess it is just how you think about it really.

SMCS28 SparkPoints: (6,956)
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4/26/12 10:57 P

I did prefer the sliding wise it was much more aesthetically pleasing...

the new way is awkward looking, so they might want to look into changing it...

I don't mind the big numbers.....*shrug*....they're there and they're what they are...that's what I get on my mobile app....

ANARIE Posts: 13,192
4/26/12 10:49 P

Play around with it a little. There's some way to hide it, because I don't see any of that stuff when I log on. I never saw a sliding scale, either, so you must have to ask for that to be shown when you set up your account preferences. Go into the preferences and play, or go to the Site and Technical Help" forum, see if anyone has talked about it there, and if not, start a new thread. Definitely, you don't have to see it if you don't want it. (In fact, I'm going to see if I can find it, because I actually *would* like to see that.)

TIKIMAMI Posts: 169
4/26/12 10:23 P


I logged in, saw the changes... & went right back to eating my dessert. emoticon

RYOKOSITH Posts: 161
4/26/12 10:18 P

While it's not upsetting for me, I will say from a design perspective it seems to stick out like a sore thumb.

Then again, that might be the entire point; to make sure the user sees their tracking information as quickly and easily as possible. Considering that not everyone who uses the internet has 20/20 vision, this probably makes it a tad more accessible, too.

LESLEYN SparkPoints: (14,922)
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4/26/12 10:07 P

I'm not sure if you are just venting or what, but this change is obviously upsetting you. Here's hoping you feel better about it tomorrow.

P.S. Sometimes even friends need to give us a kick in the pants every once and a while... we still love them right? :)

and just like that great ecards photo says:

Edited by: LESLEYN at: 4/26/2012 (22:09)
MANDIETERRIER1 Posts: 17,527
4/26/12 9:28 P

I went to the start page and the changes don't really bother me.

AILEBBELIA SparkPoints: (13,418)
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4/26/12 9:21 P

I don't log in everyday...

I saved the "Diet and Nutrition" forum under my Favorites on the computer. That way, I don't have to go to the Start page or log in.

You can go to the nutrition and exercise pages by using the Tabs under the "My Tracker" that way you don't have to go to the Start page.

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4/26/12 9:11 P

Seriously, I'm not very happy to log in to SparkPeople today and find that the Start page after logging in has changed.

I don't want Spark People to tell me in big bold numbers how many calories I have left; or how many fitness minutes; or how many pounds it thinks I have lost since setting my goals.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I liked the graphic that showed on a sliding scale how many calories were left for the day.... it wasn't so overwhelming to see it that way, it was like a good friend offering support, reminding you of your goals, nudging you along. These big bold numbers are horrid. I feel like I'm being yelled at; that I should be aiming for perfection... I don't want Spark People to yell at me when I get home.

First the facebook button debacle, and now this. It's beginning to be as bad as Facebook with unnecessary and unwanted changes and no choices in it.

I like knowing where I am at for the day with tracking calories... but I just don't want it shoved in my face. I think if this is permanent change, I will be struggling to control my anxiety at seeing that bold print. Tracking food and calories is a good thing, but can definitely cause anxiety if one feels pressure to be perfect. The big bold numbers scream at me to be perfect.

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