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SERGEANTMAJOR
Posts: 6,398
3/29/12 2:11 P


Why are you doing ab work or did you mean core work? For a quality core workout doing things such as planks, side planks, bird dogs and cow/cat yoga poses. If you are doing these isometrics do them on alternate days since they are strength exercises and require time to recover.

It is fine to do them after a run and a cool down.



MARYA81
Posts: 192
3/29/12 1:09 P

I would run first and get that HR up!



UNIDENT
Posts: 33,498
3/29/12 1:20 A

Whichever is done first, the other suffers.

Normally I agree with ST first, because the risk of injury from that with tired muscles is so much higher than from cardio with tired muscles.

But in this case, I would suggest running first.

Normally, the order of workout within an ST routine is to use your larger muscle groups first, and if you're going to focus on small stabilisers at all, do it last, so they aren't already work out when you're trying to lift the heaviest weights. I see this as much the same - wearing out your stabilising core before attempting a run would probably be very detrimental to the run.

Ultimately, it's not going to make much difference, and you've received conflicting advice even within this thread. Do what you think makes the most sense to you - or do both, see how it goes, and pick one way that seems best after experimenting.

BTW, why the question at all? I just ask because I wonder if you're doing abs every day? If not, just do them on an ST day as part of an ST routine and forget about abs+running on the same day. If you are doing abs daily then you've bought into a myth - like all skeletal muscles, abs need a day of rest too!



CLICKMASTER1
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3/29/12 1:10 A

You really haven't provided sufficient information to be able to make any kind of a recommendation. You said nothing about how you intend to work your abs and for what purpose. You said nothing about how you run and for what purpose. You even neglected to say if you're planning on doing the two on the same day, one immediately after the other, on different days, etc.

That said, I would suggest you build your core by lifting weight...as in strength training. The core muscles are working aerobically for you all day every day as you move, lift, sit up, sit down, cough and sneeze, strain, walk, run, etc. They are what keep your spine from collapsing like a stack of poker chips and too many people are spending too much time doing crunches and other core work because of the huge and rather silly trend toward ripped six packs...which few people ever have and those who do seldom keep. In other words, go for fitness, not fad.

Strength training will give you more benefits with fewer liabilities than aerobic activities such as running and lifting weight is a good way to build your core too.


Good luck and good health!!



Edited by: CLICKMASTER1 at: 3/29/2012 (01:12)


MOTIVATED@LAST
Posts: 13,948
3/28/12 10:37 P

Whichever you do second is probably going to suffer a bit.

I tend towards the advice that it is better to do strength training first. Good form is important for both the safety and effectiveness of strength training, and it is hard to maintain good form when your muscles are already tired from running.

M@L



SP_COACH_NANCY
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3/28/12 9:56 P

Hi CHEEKY1000,

It really doesn't matter. I recommend that you do whatever activity is your focus for that day. If it is an ab workout, focus on that. If it's running than focus on that. Remember that no muscle works in isolation...even in running you can get a nice core workouts by holding your posture upright. In fact I read a really great article last year about sprint workouts being great at developing core strength as it is very difficult to run fast with a lack-luster core.

Coach Nancy



CHEEKY1000
Posts: 1,022
3/28/12 9:28 P

Hi! Not long ago, I read or saw something about doing abs and running. But I cannot remember which one they said should be done first. My instinct is to do abs first and get it out of the way, but I think the information indicated that doing abs first could actually prompt muscle injury while running whereas running first would warm up the muscles for the abs. Or maybe it was the other way around. lol

I run 3 days a week and have for...wow, 8 months, but tonight I wanted to add some abs because I have the time and I haven't been paying attention to my core lately.

Did anyone see/hear the same information as I did? More importantly, does anyone remember what the best order should be? lol Which should be done first? Thanks!



 
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