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Obese 90 plus year olds?

Friday, July 15, 2011

The radio was playing in the background as I went through my morning routine and at some point I heard one of the speakers say, "You just don't see obese 90 year olds." Hmmm. The point, I'm sure, was to emphasize the link between longevity and maintaining a "healthy" weight.

But it got me to thinking about the people I have known in my life, the anecdotal evidence. My great-grandmother, whom I remember as "well-padded" from my youth, went into a nursing home when she was in her 80's, I think. By the time she passed, she had lost considerable weight. She didn't make 100, but she was over 90, and thin.

I had seen pictures of my Dad's mom, who I always thought of as being trim (she walked EVERYWHERE)... at a heavier weight when she was younger. Don't know if that "heavier" photo was a PG one, or if she really did drop the pounds same as the rest of us... but I do remember her growing her own veggies and all that walking. She lived to 84, I think. Her husband, whom I remember as tall and thin, passed when I was only 4, with his children under 30.

Another "well padded" grandma that I never knew as truly slender... passed before her own mother, and I think she was under 80 at the time. From a family perspective... I have not seen an obese 90 year old. I have seen an obese cousin pass at 34, a "big" nephew at 33, a "stout" brother in law at 54, and a couple of "fluffy" friends I remember in their 50's or 60's. My mother's death certificate described her as obese. She was in her 60's.

As for me: I don't know about numbers of years, but I do know about quality of the time I have. I'd rather live as I am now than eat the way I used to and have the problems that came with it. I don't think I want to test this fellow's theory.

How about y'all? What does your collective experience tell you?

  
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NANA717 7/19/2011 8:04AM

    WOW!! That is sobering!!! TRUE!!! and sobering!!! Thank you for writing this!!

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ASRMOM 7/16/2011 11:01AM

    Interesting thought! Thanks for getting me thinking!

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WOMANCHEF 7/16/2011 9:08AM

    Hmm food for thought:
I knew 3 great grandmothers who all lived into their 90's - two out of three were quite slim and the other was average weight. My maternal grandmother died in her 80's and was of a healthy weight and my paternal grandmother was 93 and a tiny butterball of a woman - very round and she smoked most of her life. My paternal grandfather was in his 80s and tall and slim, my maternal grandfather passed at 55 and was obese. My dad fought weight his whole adult life and died at 75. My mom is skinny as a rail and is very healthy at 77 but is starting to suffer from dementia. Kind of a mixed bag...but I am going to stick with healthy eating and living to make the most of what I have.



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OVERWORKEDJANET 7/16/2011 6:59AM

    In general, as people age beyond the "insurance average", they tend to not have the same appetite as they did in their youth. Or is it that those who live to extraordinary age in good health are the smarter ones?
That being said, there is a great correlation between healthy weight and longevity. Less stress on internal systems and structure. We see and feel it now!

My dad,who has 7 lives left(chronicled in my blogs), is back to walking about 1/2 mile a day with his walker/seat combo. He is determined to do this every day. THEN he exercises including using weights. He'll be 88 in September. No better role model for me! emoticon

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DOTTIEJANE1 7/15/2011 7:00PM

    No obese folks but overweight , I am not where i want to be BUT I am on my way . My mom is 90 and in an assisted care facility and doing great mentally and physically . She gradened most of her life up until she went to a care facility. Now walks with the other walkers.

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COMPUCATHY 7/15/2011 5:07PM

    Hmm...I never knew my grandparents. But mom passed in her 80's and she was very thin. She had such a problem with arthritis. I can imagine that her problems would have been ten-fold if she would have had to deal with weight on top of the arthritis. Just moving her little thin body was hard enough. I think being thin and healthy at any age...and probably especially in the golden years...is the way to be. Thank you for all your encouragement! I hope you have a TERRIFIC weekend! Enjoy! Celebrate your blessings! Spark on! emoticon

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MSLZZY 7/15/2011 3:16PM

    My maternal grandmother was very tall, large-boned and lived to be 87. She was "well
padded" but being 6'4, she didn't look like she carried an excess. My mother, always
thin and a hard worker, lived to be 77. She was born with an irregular heartbeat but
did everything she needed to raise 5 children. My paternal grandmother was petite but
packed a few extra pounds until very late in life. She passed at age 74. I can't find a
correlation but that's okay. I am living better now that a few years back and I love
the changes I have made.

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KALIGIRL 7/15/2011 1:08PM

    My grandmothers were different in almost every way.
My maternal GM was tall, elegant, sharp to the end (avid bridge player), and although she gained menopausal weight, I guess in a healthy BMI range. She died @ 105 we think (she may have been older - married a younger man...)
My paternal GM was short, motherly, suffered from memory loss and I assume obese most of her adult life. She died @ one month shy of her 100th birthday with still a considerable amount of body mass.

Given those genes, Iím planning to see well past 100 and like you Barb, plan to do it with quality!

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BOOKWORM27S 7/15/2011 12:57PM

    So true, the elderly that are in good health in their 80's and 90's are always slender and make an effort to stay active on a daily basis.

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_LINDA 7/15/2011 12:26PM

    All the ones I have seen or read about were thin. Guess that is pretty telling! An interesting note to the side. It seems there are a lot of obese grandfathers. Most men do not live as long as women. Even if their spouse looks after themselves and eats well, a lot of men still choose to eat what ever they want. There are more widows then widowers. Both my grandfathers died before the grandchildren even came along, but smoking was the cause for the early departure. A lot of women on here speak of the struggle to stay out of their husband's stash of junk foods or having to buy or make them their treats. I see a lot of photos of thin women beside chubby hubbies on Sparks..
More food for thought..

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SEATURTLE86 7/15/2011 11:10AM

    Hummm...now you have me thinking. Great blog! Well I do know one thing, I agree with you when you said "I'd rather live as I am now than eat the way I used to and have the problems that came with it. " That is exactly how I feel now. I am trying to nip all the health problems in the bud! And I plan to live to 100! emoticon
~Pam

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LEEZAB 7/15/2011 10:57AM

  interesting... my grandmother died at 85 and was overweight. She had an allergic reaction to a drug so perhaps it was before her time. My Dad began to lose weight within 2 years of his death. He died at 75 due to heart failure. It may be that after he late 80's... there is some switch over. I do know that many older people lose their sense of taste and then food just doesn't have the pleasure it did and many have difficulty swallowing. My almost 90 father in law is active but he can't really taste the food and always complains he doesn't enjoy eating as much as he did,

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TURTLETALK 7/15/2011 10:17AM

    Wow, great food for thought. I have plenty of "well-padded" relatives but the only ones who made it into their 90's were thin by the time they hit that number. My grandfather passed away 30 days before his 100 birthday but I always remember him as tall and thin with perfect posture. Hmmm, I guess I'd better get with it because I intend to hit the magic 100!

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DEBRITA01 7/15/2011 9:08AM

    At my part-time job, I interact with senior citizens every day...most of them are living independent, fulfilling lives in their late 80's and 90's. The common theme seems to be they remain ACTIVE both mentally and physically. My husband's grandma lived to be 100 and she remained active as long as she could...and when the body gave out, she kept her mind active. When she was younger she was obese, but as she reached her late 70's she lost weight without trying. Although she wasn't slim in her earlier years, she did eat all meals from scratch~no processed or fast food for her!
In thinking about it, it seems to be a 3-pronged approach to longevity: an active body, an active mind, and healthy foods. Good blog and something to think about...

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LOVE_2_LAUGH 7/15/2011 8:55AM

    I think that when people reach a certain age (not sure what that age is, however) it becomes more an issue of eating to live, not living to eat. Once that switch is flipped, they naturally lose weight. My mom battled with weight issues most of her adult life but was only 100 pounds when she passed away in November. My grandmother who was "average" for all the time I knew her, was quite heavy in younger days. Perhaps as we age, just staying alive becomes the priority and focus and eating for enjoyment takes a back seat. Which is probably why "they" say: with age comes wisdom. . . .

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PUPPYDOG0613 7/15/2011 8:39AM

    I have never really thought about this, but I believe you are right. Interesting. I'm going to add this to my motivational quotes. :)

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LESS_IS_MO 7/15/2011 8:30AM

    Your assessment sounds right. I've only seen unhappy, lethargic obese grannies. None that is spry and energetic.

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ELSEEBEE 7/15/2011 8:28AM

    You are so right, Barb! We know excess weight leads to all kinds of problems. I'm with you on the eating healthy and exercising lifestyle as being a permanent change in my life. We don't know how many days we have left, but I plan to enjoy every darn one of them! emoticon

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National weight control registry

Thursday, July 14, 2011

A few weeks back I finally set the stake in the ground and signed up for this study. Today a whole sheaf of questionnaires showed up in my mailbox. I spent most of this evening filling them out. In order to do so, I had to drag out all the calendars on which I had recorded weights... and for that matter, back into my Weight Commander software. I suppose it might be a bit of a statement about my obsession with the scale that I have nearly 20 years of records!

emoticon However, I found out how faulty my memory is, in the process. I had thought that I was back up to my highest weight in 2005. I discovered when I really looked it up, that it was in 2001. Mostly I hung out between ten and twenty pounds under that, even in my heavy phases. That "top" number didn't stay long, either of the two times I reached it... because it was really, really unhealthy and my survival instincts would NOT allow me to stay there!

When you are out of breath from walking five steps to answer the telephone, it's time to *do something*! When you hurt all the time, it's time to *do something*! I never want to go back there again. And that is part of my putting the stake in the ground of joining this study of those who are maintaining weight loss, long-term.

And tomorrow I will fill out the final study questionnaire and send it back.

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KALIGIRL 7/15/2011 1:02PM

    How cool.
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LINDAJOYWK 7/15/2011 6:14AM

    Very cool! By the way,what is weight commander software?

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LJCANNON 7/15/2011 1:13AM

    emoticonWay To Go!! Spreading Your Spark Nationwide!!
I am so glad to be your SparkFriend. I believe we will help each other--and many others too--to beat the Statistics that say so many people gain their weight back!!

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LAFEMMEDELALUNE 7/15/2011 12:23AM

    What a milestone....helping others through the registry.
Great Job!!
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THISYEARSMODEL 7/15/2011 12:15AM

    Congratulations on your success! And...it's not just you. I have weight charts in my old journals dating back to age 13 or 14. Ridiculous, isn't it?

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_LINDA 7/15/2011 12:06AM

    Wow! 20 years!! You make a good study case alright!! But it seems you have come a long way from your early beginnings. Lessons learned. you only get one shot at good health and you have decided to put the odds in your favor! Wishing you continued success at maintaining a healthy weight and lifestyle!!

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LOVE_2_LAUGH 7/14/2011 11:19PM

    There's no doubt in my mind (based on what I've read in your blogs) that you've made a fairly permanent change in your lifestyle and way of thinking about food, health, etc., that you'll be able to maintain this new, healthy weight for the rest of your life. I've said it many times, and I'll repeat it here: you are an inspiration to so many of us sparkers. Thanks for all you do to share knowledge and wisdom and to just support and encourage us.

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It came to pass

Wednesday, July 13, 2011

There is an old church joke about favorite Bible verses, which is the source of today's title. Those of you who grew up or have been exposed to the old King James (Revised Standard) edition might remember it. When asked what his favorite verse was, the old man replied "It came to pass". This is a phrase used often in that version, and for those of you who aren't Shakespearean fans or never had it preached, the phrase simply indicates something on the order of "once upon a time", or, "here's what happened".

In any case, the whole idea behind this phrase being the favorite is that whatever is going on in life, "it came to pass"... or rather, life will go on, and this episode of discouragement, or sorrow, or difficulty will pass, just as time does.

What took me down this path this week is work. I went in Monday morning, found several things going not so great, and left Monday night to keep my dinner date with brother and son... knowing that it hadn't passed yet and feeling somewhat stressed, as it was still ongoing. By noon yesterday, there was a plan in place and steps being taken to deal with the interim until that plan can be completed.

It came. It is passing. It will pass. This was a relatively small thing by comparison to major life disruptions, yet even those are something that arise, get emoted over, and life goes on. It came to pass, whatever it is.

When feeling a little discouraged or a little like a back-slider... this too shall pass. When that plateau in fitness, weight management, or motivation hits... this too shall pass. Knowing this makes it easier to come back to center, and live life in balance.

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STEPPYSUE 7/14/2011 8:22AM

    You are my daily inspiration!

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KATHRYNLP 7/14/2011 8:11AM

    I just hum the tune "Tomorrow-Tomorrow-Tomorrow is another day!"
Good blog; because we can all have those kind of days. We just have to get to tomorrow! emoticon

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OVERWORKEDJANET 7/14/2011 5:35AM

    Timely.

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_LINDA 7/13/2011 1:55PM

    Time heals all wounds supposedly. A lot of people on here use the phrase, this too shall pass. So its obviously a very popular saying. Now the hard part, toughing it out until it has finally passed!!

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KALIGIRL 7/13/2011 12:35PM

    Life IS good and if we didn't taste the bitter, we wouldn't know the sweet.

Speaking of 'bitter' - how 'bout the Saturday forecast?
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BESTSUSIEYET 7/13/2011 11:59AM

    It came to pass ... in the fullness of time ... Our lives are in His Hands, and fretting isn't going to change the stressful situation. Thanks, Barb!

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ELSEEBEE 7/13/2011 10:15AM

    You always give me so much to think about, Barb! Thank you for being my inspiration today! I'm saving this and coming back to read it again!

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DRB13_1 7/13/2011 10:05AM

    I've always liked that phrase, it puts things in perspective
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LOVE_2_LAUGH 7/13/2011 9:33AM

    You are such a wise woman, Barb. Love this blog!

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MARVEEME 7/13/2011 9:28AM

    Let me add to your favorite term another favorite term of mine:
"In the fullness of time"

That phrase has gotten me beyond the "passing stage" quicker to look for the lesson or potential aftermath of the incident to start aligning the building materials necessary for that next phase.

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HOT4FITNESS 7/13/2011 9:02AM

    Thanks for the reminder. I look forward to that "passing moment".

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DEBRA0818 7/13/2011 9:00AM

    Emotions are such a valuable piece of information but they're only a piece. They must be tempered sometimes by rationality, experience and values lest they drag us all over the place for no reason!

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WORDLILY 7/13/2011 8:57AM

    Good reminder. :)

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FITFABJENN 7/13/2011 8:56AM

    Well said. Thanks again for your insightful words.

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4DOGNIGHT 7/13/2011 8:23AM

    Thanks so much! My blog yesterday was an exercise in frustration but getting it down in cyberspace helped to "pass" it on. Already I feel better. Have a great day!

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ANDI571 7/13/2011 8:08AM

    I don't know how many times I have said, And this to shall pass. And it always does.

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My favorite Spark calendar quote came up today

Tuesday, July 12, 2011

"People often say that motivation doesn't last. Well, neither does bathing -- that's why we recommend it daily." - Zig Ziglar

The first time I read this, I laughed out loud. It is so true. I blog because of the need in me for that daily motivation. I may miss a day here and there, but for the most part, I'm here writing my daily pep talk to myself. Those who follow regularly know I'm all over the map in what I say, too... from the alphabet blogs to the silly stories to life events and philosophy. But the bottom line is that I'm here on Spark for a few minutes (OK, maybe for more than a few) remembering WHY I DO THIS!

Because I like being fit. Because I love that my knees, my back, my feet don't hurt any more. That I can trot up the stairs at work without being out of breath at the top. Because I can even *consider* walking home from work or to the grocery store. Because my body handles the summer heat so much better. Because I like me better when I'm not exhausted all the time. I like having the freedom to make other choices!

That freedom comes from having made it a priority. Whatever it takes to keep you going and making choices to live the life you envision for yourself... may it be yours in abundance today. The motivation to live well can come from many sources. Grab a portion for today.

  
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MNTWINSGAL 7/12/2011 10:31PM

    lol, I have that calendar too, and I think this is one of the better quotes too!

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REJ7777 7/12/2011 8:38PM

    I love that quote too!

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ANDI571 7/12/2011 7:52PM

    It has been so hot here, and I just told my husband that last summer we would have been out walking in it. I can tell such a difference this year. That daily motivation is so important. Keep up the words of wisdom.

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LEANJEAN6 7/12/2011 6:51PM

    So good to read how much better you feel!!!---You work hard at it too!--Motivates me--yer blog!-Lynda

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_LINDA 7/12/2011 1:53PM

    I love this quote too :) My motivation is much the same as yours, love the way my body feels when it is fit, and it does even help with the pain of my disease as well as keeping on moving so it doesn't cripple me up. You snooze you lose, got to move it!

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MSLZZY 7/12/2011 9:52AM

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What a positive attitude!

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ELSEEBEE 7/12/2011 8:24AM

    Amen! You have said it so well, as you always do, Barb!

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LOVE_2_LAUGH 7/12/2011 8:20AM

    My quote/thought for the day? "When I grow up, I wanna be just like Barb!"

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DEBRA0818 7/12/2011 8:20AM

    So true and I believe for me the motivation comes after the doing not before!

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WATERMELLEN 7/12/2011 8:10AM

    Let there be motivation on earth and let it begin with me . . . because that's the only place it can begin, of course!!

Love listening in on your pep talks, though . . . because they work for me too!!

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Advice for newbies?

Monday, July 11, 2011

Now I've done it. Unleashed my brother on the SparkVerse. I've warned him to pace himself... like me, he can be sucked into online things and get burnt to a crisp. Spark is such a rich environment, one has to carefully manage the time we spend here. Each of us finds what works for us as individuals, because the point isn't JUST to be an online community, it is to think through what we want and go get it!

So... that said, my own two bits when starting out is "start with the basics": the food tracker and the fitness tracker. Add other things judiciously as time goes on and you find them helpful. Avoid getting caught up in the video-game-like aspect of Spark Points accumulation! This is NOT a competition where she/he who has the most points wins. It's just another little mind game that helps some of us stay motivated. They will happen quite naturally as you find articles you WANT to read, and as you use the trackers.

For me the key is not knowledge, it is motivation. Day after day, week after week, month after month... for me, the community support is what helps me remember that this is a priority for me. That I want to live healthy and why. I still find useful and new information. But staying motivated helps keep me looking for it!

Happy Sparking, dear brother... and look out Spark friends... whatever self-deprecating thing he might post, MOBYCARP is a force to be reckoned with! emoticon

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WATERMELLEN 7/12/2011 8:12AM

    MOBYCARP -- what a great handle. And kudos for you for motivating your family . . . yeah!!

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CONCHA77 7/12/2011 6:47AM

    Welcome -MOBYCARP!
Can't wait to meet you! emoticon

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PENNYAN45 7/11/2011 7:11PM

    Now that you have set the example, your brother should do really well here at SP.

I agree with you that beginning by tracking and drinking water is the way to go.

It will be interesting to see how he does here. I sometimes think that women are more used to sharing their thoughts and feelings than men are. And I think that sharing is a very important part of being successful here - for me, anyway.

Although, some men have done a fantastic job here. I should not generalize about men.

WELCOME TO SPARK PEOPLE, MOBYCARP!!

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LOVE_2_LAUGH 7/11/2011 6:16PM

    You have a very wise approach to sparking. I sometimes do get caught up in earing sparkpoints and then ask myself why . . . . I hope your brother gets as much enjoyment/knowledge from it as you do.

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DEBRITA01 7/11/2011 4:36PM

    emoticonYou Sparked your brother just as you continue to Spark others on this site. Like you said, it's good to start out simple and build from there. No one can do it all and everyone's SP journey is unique.

Welcome MOBYCARP, you've come to the right place... emoticon

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ANDI571 7/11/2011 4:02PM

    Good wisdom for us oldies also. I too came in guns a blazin'. All the sudden I was exchanging over eating for over sparking. But with time I found the balance I needed. My spark friends are the backbone of my spark experience. You are always there to lift me up and dust me off when need be.

So glad we have had the pleasure of meeting. emoticon

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_LINDA 7/11/2011 3:53PM

    Over Sparking was why I gave up my old name and went private. Its not helping much, still getting friend adds and they even e-mail when I don't add them back!! Aggressive people, but I am standing my ground as I don't have the time, typing skill and connection to deal with keeping up with a large friend's list! Moderation in all thing!
Way to motivate yourself and others! Hope your brother finds this site useful!!

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SLENDERELLA61 7/11/2011 10:35AM

    How exciting to help your brother get started! Very wise words, too. Yep, I know it can be a little overwhelming at first. Also, for the most part it encourages good habits BUT when I found myself staying up to midnight in order to start getting points early, I knew I was out of my mind! The point is health and fitness. The point is not points!! Thanks.

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KASEYCOFF 7/11/2011 8:55AM

    Oh, he's got a great role model - his sister is an A-1 Sparkler!
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Bring it!

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DEBRA0818 7/11/2011 8:22AM

    Woo-hoo! Another family member joins in. I've added him as a friend and hope that he finds the website as motivating and friendly as I have!

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THISYEARSMODEL 7/11/2011 8:19AM

    A trainer on TV said something that was particularly helpful to me. He was talking about the 3 keys we're all familiar with--nutrition, water, & exercise--and said "Do all 3 well, but pick one of the three to go the extra mile with, and do it with no exceptions, as if your life depends on it."

Since I know the amount of exercise I'm able to do right now won't get the results I want, my extra-mile, life depends on it item is food tracking. I've logged every bite into the food Tracker since December 30, 2010, no exceptions. (When I'm away from an electronic device I write down what I ate in a small notebook & enter it into the tracker later.) Changed my life, and the intense focus on one makes the other 2 seem easier.

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REJ7777 7/11/2011 7:31AM

    A force to be reckoned with, huh? Like his sister? emoticon

I didn't use the trackers when I first started using SP. I'd counted calories in the past and was burned out with dieting. I didn't even want to LOOK at the trackers! I had the good fortune to join the Turtles team almost as soon as I joined Spark. I found tremendous support! Then I started using the fitness tracker. It took several months before I started using the nutrition tracker, and found how easy it is to use. Now, I use both every day. They're great tools. But like you, I mostly come to SP for motivation. I need the support, the "today counts", and "you can do it" that I find here. I used to think that it was cute when people said SP is addictive. I'm not laughing anymore! It's gotta be managed, just like every other area of our lives.

Thank you for being my friend! emoticon

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