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Dietary Supplements for Depression
What Does the Research Really Show?
9/9/2014 2:20:31 PM
I get so tired of people with no real life experience with major psychiatric disorders telling me that depression/anxiety or whatever are made up diagnosis. Suicide is a major problem in this country, that is fueled by this kind of ignorance. I realize that for people who have never experienced this kind of pain, it might be difficult to understand, but that doesn't make it fake.
6/23/2014 10:12:44 AM
Great article (I especially appreciated the quick list of things to skip on the last page.) I would love to hear more about antioxidants like alpha lipoic acid, N-acetyl-cysteine (NAC) and the like. I kinda place them in the same "supportive care" column as salmon or an extra of helping of vegetables with regard to treating depression. Some supplements like NAC have been used for years clinically/with a prescription to treat cancer, liver failure, (see http://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/herb/n-ac etylcysteine for info on this) but are also sold as supplements and touted as having potential use with regard to depression and anxiety.
Anyway, I'd love to see more articles regarding drugs/supplements that are well characterized and useful for treating other medical conditions that are now studied for the treatment of depression.
Not that the drug companies or the FDA are innocent, far from it, but it is impossible to assume a supplement is going to have a consistent level of quality and potency. Products from plants and animals are notoriously variable, and I speak as a person with years of experience in the food industry. Quality control is extremely problematic the closer you get to a natural product. All you have to do is walk around your produce department or farmers' market to see the truth in that statement.
I'm just saying this, "Make your judgment on depression treatment based upon your needs and your lifestyle, tempered with a lot of independent information. And don't believe everything you read on the internet."
Wow, this article is simply shocking! It's basically pushing pharmaceutical drugs for depression. The statement toward the end of the article professing that drugs are very tightly regulated is actually laughable. The drug companies hide the negative aspects of their studies and submit the positive ones. There are all sorts of research out there now to prove that. The black box warnings on depression drugs goes on and on and yet these drugs are tightly regulated? That makes no sense at all. After doing hordes of research myself on these drugs after ending up in the emergency room with life threatening side affects from one, I am absolutely convinced that the drug companies and psychiatrists are now trying to make up disorders to sell their drugs. Psychiatric drugs alone kill over 50 thousand people a year and 150,000 end up like me, in an ER with horrible reactions to them. They cause violence, mania, suicidal tendency, etc, and yet we are to be afraid of supplements? Makes no sense. This idea that depression is a disease is quite ridiculous promoted by the drug companies to sell their drugs. There are no tests, none, that would ever confirm the disease of depression. Drugs only cover up the symptoms of depression, they do not cure it (but they do create a patient for life, since once on them, it's hell getting off). I'll try anything else first! There are new studies and new evidence that drugs are ineffective for mild to moderate depression and no better than a placebo. We have become a nation of pill poppers and the drug companies are raking in billions from it and the FDA is being driven by it as well.
I also tried impramine as well as a bunch of other drugs many years ago and found they did nothing really but give me dry mouth and shaking hands. SJW did nothing. Valerian gave me bad dreams, and is really too strong for most long-term applications.
Vitatmin B, D and calcium seem to help, and I take them right along with my fish oil and multi every morning.
I used to take hops extract, but now I just have a beer with dinner when I'm feeling stressed out. Works like a charm. It is not just the alcohol that relaxes you. They used to make hops pillows to calm the nerves, but most people say they rustle a lot.
I use passion flower tea also when I need to smooth my mood. I hear that parents who don't want to use drugs use it for treating ADD or ADHD often use passion flower because it's also very safe and tastes good. Meditation, strategic naps, and exercise on a regular basis really help a lot, too. I also notice that eating cleanly (little white sugar, flour and processed foods) makes me more consistent in mood.
None of these things by themselves make an earth shattering difference, but together they add up significantly.
Maybe it's just me, but having an ad for a new anti-depressant drug on an article seemingly showing vitamins in a negative light makes me wonder about the information contained in the article itself. That being said, I'm sure the author wrote the article honestly and really had no control over the ad that was placed on the same page.I certainly don't mean to imply in any way that she was dishonest in order to retain advertising. I'm POSITIVE that wasn't the case. I guess I'm just trying to make the point that it just doesn't look right to have that ad along with this particular article.
I've been dealing with major depressive disorder since 2002 and am honestly sick of trying new prescription medication. I was hoping to find something in here that I could try instead. After having passed out three times in the first-and only-night since trying the last new prescription one week ago, I'm afraid to try any others.
I have suffered from severe depression and anxiety since I was about 4 or 5 years old. I tried lexapro when I was 18 and it didn't change my symptoms much, so I went off of meds for a few years. When I was 22 I was perscribed with Cymbalta. Cymbalta was the miracle worker for me, but it is more expensive. I would love to try any natural alternatives for my severe symptoms, does anybody have any suggestions?
Attention! St. John ´s wort can interact with the anti-conception meds!!! Not all doctors think of it, since it is no real medication- but it is better to be well aware of the fact. If taking St.John´s Wort always look for anti-conception alternatives.
This is a well written article, however I would like to just add that both myself and I have family members who have lifetime health issues to do some of those medications that are so strictly monitored by the FDA. So I think it's equally important to consider carefully EVERYTHING we put into our bodies, not only those prescription medications that are regulated. REgulated does not necessarily mean "safe".
That is pretty clear from all of commercials on television and in magazine articles about medications.
I had been on 100mg zoloft (and briefly tried Lexapro) for several years, after the birth of my children - my dr originally seemed to think it was post partum depression but it has continued. Both drugs were very hard on my stomach and I just couldn't take it anymore. I switched to St John's Wort and I've been very happy with it for the last year. I take double the recommended dosage on the bottle (still well within acceptable dosages being prescribed in Europe for centuries) and I get the same benefits w/o the side effects on my digestive system. LOVE it! I only take well known brands, my current favorite is Origins (2 pills 3x daily), a close second is the time released version by NatureMade. I have also noticed that working out has helped as well - but I recently tried going off of the SJW and had to go back on it after a few weeks - so I still obviously need it.
Don't let this article talk you out of trying alternative methods! Personally I think the big drug companies promote a lot of the "counter intelligence" on drug alternatives, just to discourage people from trying other options. Just do your research, try only major brands or those recommended by a dr AND discuss possible drug interactions with the pharmacist or your dr first! Remember SJW is a prescription only drug (hypercurium) in Europe ...just because it's available OTC here, doesn't mean you should overlook possible side effects or drug interactions!
(PS look online for coupons and combine with B1G1Free sales to get them even cheaper!!)
I know alot of people, myself included, that gained easily with the taking of A.D.s I've had to work hard (w/SP) not to gain anymore.... I had been gaining cont. since May 2009, which is when I first started taking them.
Very helpful. Wondering if any of these antidepressants help w/ weight loss. I've put on alot of weight and now have about 12lbs to lose. I've heard antidepressants can actually put on weight. I'm on Bupropion HCL and Lorazepam, I'm hoping neither of them do.
Information is changing rapidly. There is a very recent study published in JAMA that looked at antidepressants and found that they were not effective on milder cases. Combining data from 6 studies that looked at the effectiveness of two common prescription antidepressants — paroxetine (Paxil) and imipramine — found the drugs produced benefits only slightly greater than a placebo in many patients. While people certainly need to talk to their doctors, they also need to educate themselves about other methods and DO look at studies, and use a critical eye (how many people were in the study, was it double blind, who funded it, etc). But there have always been local remedies and herbals used. While not all work, many have properties that do help. After all, a healer wouldn't stay in business very long if her/his cures didn't work, right?
Extremely disappointing article. There ARE studies (and this info is so cutting edge and changing all the time that this article is already dated) that show certain natural remedies work for the mildly depressed and those suffering from PMS.
Once again, Spark tries to be a medical source, when they need to stick to what they do best - offering nutritional and exercise information so someone can lead an active, healthy lifestyle.
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